LSA

(Morning Glory Seeds, Hawaiian Baby Woodrose, Ergine)

TrippyWiki score: 9.5/10

What is LSA?

LSA is the main psychoactive compound found in morning glory seeds. Even though this substance belongs to the lysergamide family and its name is similar to LSD, the effects of LSA are somewhat different.

Why choose LSA over other psychedelics?

LSA…

Doesn’t seem to cause any long-term damage to your organs and the lethal dose is extremely high
Cannot be impure, unlike synthetic psychedelics (the seeds are easy to identify)
Doesn’t cause a “bad” trip as often as many other psychedelics
Is legal in most places of the world
Allows you to have cleaner thoughts than if you were to take magic mushrooms, for example
Has a long duration that allows you to reap more benefits from your trip but the trip also doesn’t last for too long
Won’t make you addicted unless you take it just to have fun and see pretty colors
Is one of the best psychedelics for beginner psychonauts

Long-term benefits & side effects

Many of the benefits will only occur if you follow the tips below.
Most (if not all) of the side effects are preventable and they will not happen if you follow the Safety checklist.

LSA…

Is one of the most effective ways to treat depression and PTSD
Can lower your levels of stress and anxiety, including social anxiety
Is being used to cure addictions
Might help you form positive habits, such as meditation and exercise
Increases neuroplasticity
Makes you more creative and open-minded
Helps you look at your life from a different perspective
Allows you to heal your childhood trauma and forgive people who’ve hurt you
Makes you more conscious and loving
Can help you transcend the fear of death
Gives you insights into the nature of reality
Has helped many people improve their immune system and cure allergies
Makes you appreciate nature more
…

Has led to self-harm by people who took it in an unsafe environment
Might speed up the onset of schizophrenia if you’re genetically predisposed to it
Can cause HPPD and physical damage if you combine it with other substances (such as alcohol or stimulants)
Could cause you trauma due to bad set and setting
Might lead to drug-induced psychosis if you’re predisposed to it
Can be psychologically addictive (but only if you use the psychedelic recreationally)
Can cause seizures in rare cases
Is illegal in many places and you might get arrested for getting involved with the substance
Will make you dislike the government and the way that our society functions
…

How to take LSA

Administration

The most common route of administration is to eat LSA-containing seeds, either from Hawaiian Baby Woodrose or Moringa Glory.

This is also the best way to take LSA. Just make sure to eat the seeds on an empty stomach.

You could also create an LSA extract but the process is fairly difficult and you will not get much benefit from doing it as opposed to eating the seeds.

Dosage

Morning Glory Seeds

10-50 seeds = Threshold dose
50-100 seeds = Light dose
100-250 seeds = Regular dose
250-400 seeds = Strong dose
400+ seeds = High dose

If you have an accurate scale and you don’t want to count the seeds, 40 seeds usually weigh 1 gram.

Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds

1-3 seeds = Threshold dose
3-5 seeds = Light dose
5-8 seeds = Regular dose
8-12 seeds = Strong dose
12+ seeds = High dose

Do not start with a strong/high dose if you don’t have a trip sitter nearby.

Also, keep in mind that the higher the dose you take, the more important it is to be in a safe environment.

Some people are more sensitive than others. Some individuals can take a strong dose and feel nothing while some can experience ego dissolution with a low dose. Finding the best dose may require some experimentation.

Equivalents for LSA seeds

The effects of the psychedelics below are not the same as the effects of LSA. This chart only compares the intensity of each substance.

Grams of Moringa Glory	1 gram
Moringa Glory Seeds	40 seeds
HWB Seeds	~1.6 seeds
LSD	25 µg
Mescaline	70 mg
Dry Mushrooms	0.45 grams
AL-LAD	30 µg

Safety checklist

Maximize the benefits

Keep in mind that integration is even more important than the trip itself. Taking psychedelics would be useless if you didn’t retain any lessons in your day-to-day life.

What will help you the most is contemplating about the experience – be it by journaling, thinking about the trip, or sharing your memories with a trusted friend.

Distracting thoughts can get in the way, which is why you want to spend the day after your trip without TV, social media, and other distractions.

If you can, spend time in silence and solitude. Meditate, go for a walk, contemplate the experience.

Should you listen to music on LSA?

Music can make the trip more pleasant and greatly increase the benefits. That is why it is used in most psychotherapy sessions.

Not all music is created equal. Listening to N.W.A. and 2Pac would usually be counterproductive. Even positive, relaxing music with lyrics can sometimes be a distraction.

If you decide to listen to music on psychedelics, choose calm, classical music with little to no lyrics.

This playlist used in Johns Hopkins psilocybin studies is proven to be extremely effective:

Roland Griffiths, the author of this playlist, went over hundreds of great uplifting and therapeutic songs and only chose the best of the best based on how his patients responded to the music.

The music should be loud enough so you can hear it clearly but not unpleasantly loud. If you can, play it in your headphones.

Duration

Onset = 20-40 minutes
Come up = 20-160 minutes
Peak = 2-4 hours
Come down = 1-6 hours

You should notice the first effects within 40 minutes after you take the psychedelic
You will reach the maximum effect around the 2-hour mark
The whole trip usually lasts for 5-10 hours
At high doses, your trip may last for even longer
If you eat before your trip, the substance will take longer to kick in

What LSA feels like

The effects of LSA are somewhat similar to LSD but there are some key differences.

Just like with LSD, some common short-term effects include:

Euphoria
Increased creativity and open-mindedness
Mindfulness, being present
Higher capability for love and compassion
Pain relief
Feeling one with all that is
Seeing life from a different perspective
Appreciating small things
Higher energy
Increased awareness
Stamina enhancement
Feeling your emotions more intensely
Memory suppression
Time distortion
Visual effects (enhanced colors, seeing patterns in everything, distortions, …)
Confusion
Inability to focus
Increased body temperature
Increased heart rate
Worse thermoregulation
Difficulty urinating
Anxiety, paranoia
Vulnerability

But unlike LSD, LSA can make you extremely nauseous. It is not uncommon to vomit after taking LSA.

LSA is also not as visual as LSD and the visuals are much different.

Many psychonauts report that LSA is more euphoric and also gentler and less mentally draining.

The higher dose you take, the more intense the effects will be.

With all that said, the only way to truly know what LSA feels like is to take LSA.

LSA will most likely give you a pleasant experience. Bad trips can happen but you can prevent them by following the tips below.

Bad trips

Bad trips mostly happen because people take the substance irresponsibly. If you take this psychedelic the right way, there is virtually no chance you’ll get a bad trip.

In case you still do, that’s good! A “bad” trip isn’t bad, it can actually be the most healing and insightful moment of your life!

During a “bad” trip, negative emotions are coming up from your subconscious mind. They have always been there whether you are aware of it or not. They have been damaging your life and a difficult trip is an opportunity to process these traumas and unpleasant feelings and let go of them.

The more painful the experience, the more you can heal.

So instead of calling bad trips bad, call them challenging.

If you understand that bad trips are awesome in the long-run, not only will you feel more comfortable diving into these challenging states, it will actually excite you!

Why they happen

The most common reasons for getting a bad trip are:

Tripping in an unsafe environment (in public, at a party, even nature doesn’t feel safe if you take higher doses)
Facing difficult times in your day-to-day life (a break-up, death of a loved one, …)
Rejecting to let go and trying to hold on to your ego and control the state
Being afraid of the trip (either because of the stigma around psychedelics or because you are not sure how pure your substance is)
Mixing the psychedelic with alcohol, weed, or other drugs
Expecting a bad trip (it can easily become a self-fulfilling prophecy)

How to cope with a bad trip

Do not perceive this experience as something bad, remember that facing these difficult emotions is extremely healing
Fully surrender to the experience, do not try to feel good
If you’re alone, call a trusted friend to come over and keep you safe

How to end a bad trip

In case you are not ready to face your inner demons yet, there are a few ways to end a bad trip.

One possible way is to put on music that is familiar to you. Another way is to switch up your location and move from one place to another. This can completely change your train of thought.

In case the trip becomes extremely challenging and there is no one around you to keep you safe, consider ending your trip with a trip killer.

Using a trip killer usually is not the best idea because the bad emotions will stay unresolved and you will get little to no benefits from the experience. With that said, using a trip killer is smarter than harming yourself.

The 2 best options that you have for ending a bad trip are Phenibut and benzodiazepines.

Phenibut is generally safer. The downside is that it can take hours to kick in.

So to end a trip, use benzodiazepines but only do this if you completely have to.

Interactions

Lion’s Mane and Niacin
Taking Lion’s mane and niacin combined with a microdose of lysergamides or other serotonergic psychedelics can result in significant improvements in neuroplasticity. To maximize the benefits related to neuroplasticity, take a microdose with 1 gram of dry Lion’s mane and 50-100 mg of niacin every 3rd day.
Qualia Mind
This nootropic is comprised of 28 ingredients designed to support and maximize your brain function. These ingredients act synergistically and many of them will protect you from the neurotoxic effects of psychedelics. Qualia will also make your trips more pleasant and help you retain more benefits from them.
Herbs
Herbs can help calm you down. Herbal teas (chamomile, lemon balm, valerian root, …) are especially helpful.
Green tea
Tea makes you both more alert and calm at the same time. It also contains neuroprotective antioxidants, such as EGCG.
CBD
CBD has a calming effect.
Magic mushrooms
The substances act synergistically, some people prefer this combination instead of taking the two individually.
Weed
Marijuana will greatly intensify the trip.
MDMA
They have a synergistic effect but LSA might increase the neurotoxicity of MDMA. Also, do not combine the two if you suffer from heart problems.
Nitrous oxide
Nitrous oxide will multiply the intensity of your trip.
Benzodiazepines (Valium, Xanax, …)
Benzos will end your psychedelic experience within 40 minutes but using this method may cause you side effects in the long-run.
Dissociatives
Combining dissociatives with psychedelics won’t necessarily cause you harm but it can be confusing and lead to bad trips.
Alcohol
Alcohol minimizes all the potential benefits of a psychedelic experience. It also greatly increases your chance of having a bad trip.
SSRIs or MAOIs
Not only will these antidepressants greatly decrease the intensity of your trip, but they can also lead to long-lasting side effects.
Lithium
Combining psychedelics with lithium significantly increases the risk of seizures and psychosis.
Stimulants
The combination can easily lead to heart problems, even if you’re a healthy individual.
Tramadol
Combining the two can cause seizures.
St. John’s Wort
This combination may lead to serotonin syndrome.

Microdosing

LSA can be a great substance to microdose with because the seeds are usually legal and they are easy to dose. The only downside is that these seeds can nauseate you.

If you are going to microdose with either morning glory seeds or HBW, take 10-15 morning glory seeds or half a seed of HBW every 3rd day. Taking a microdose more often is not a good idea because you would become tolerant to LSA and the drug would have little to no effect.

There are not many people who microdose with LSA so we don’t know about the long-term effects.

With that said, microdosing with LSA will probably give you similar benefits to microdosing with LSD or magic mushrooms.

Legality

Both Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds and Moringa Glory seeds are completely legal to buy and sell in most countries of the world.

In Russia, you can legally buy MG seeds but not HBW seeds.

It is illegal in most countries to extract LSA from the seeds.

FAQ

Becoming addicted to LSA is virtually impossible. What you need to know about is tolerance.

If you were to trip 2 days in a row, your 2nd trip would be extremely weak. You will have to wait for several days to refresh your tolerance.

How many days does it take?

This mostly depends on the dose. At regular doses, it takes approximately 7 days to become intolerant again.

So you could technically take LSA every week but if you want to maximize the benefits, do not trip before you integrate all the lessons from your last trip.

Counter-intuitively, you might get more benefits by tripping less often.

That is why you may only want to trip once or twice a month or just a couple of times a year.

As your trips get more and more intense, you will not want to trip nearly as often anyway.

LSA’s psychedelic effects are believed to come from its efficacy at the 5-HT_2A receptor as a partial agonist. However, the role of these interactions and how they result in the psychedelic experience remains the subject of scientific investigation.

With that said, the only way to truly know what this psychedelic does to your brain is to try it yourself.

It is not about your age, it is about how mature you are.

Teenagers (and younger) generally aren’t responsible enough to take psychedelics but it isn’t always the case.

If you are under the age of 21, your brain is evolving at a rapid rate on its own. This means that when you take psychedelics, there is more potential for growth but the risks are also higher.

Most importantly, you need to trip in a safe place where there are no strangers around.

Whether you should take LSA at home or in nature will depend on your priorities.

Tripping at home is safer and better for personal growth while taking psychedelics outside will help you develop a strong connection with nature.

Try both and see which one you like more.

If you are a mentally stable individual who does not suffer from psychosis or have a predisposition to schizophrenia, there is virtually no way you would develop any mental illnesses because of taking the psychedelic.

Similarly to LSD, LSA can be detected in your blood for 6-12 hours after you’ve taken it.

It stays in your urine for 3-4 days.

In your hair, LSA can be detected for a couple of months.

All that said, there’s almost no chance anyone would ever test you for LSA. Police officers rarely do it and in sports, LSA usually isn’t prohibited.

The seeds have an earthy, soil-like taste. They do not taste bad on themselves but they have a very unpleasant aftertaste. Both morning glory seeds and Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds are extremely nauseating and you will likely vomit after eating them.

Keep your seeds in a cold dark place, preferably with no air.

No. If you eat food before you take the seeds, you will experience extreme nausea and you will almost inevitably vomit. Always take LSA seeds on an empty stomach, stop eating at least 4-6 hours before.

Short answer: either LSA or magic mushrooms, depending on your priority.

All of these are amazing for beginners.

If you are not sure whether or not your LSD is pure, either psilocybin mushrooms or LSA are a way to go.

LSD and LSA both allow you to have clearer thoughts and are less likely to make you confused than magic mushrooms.

The duration of LSD is much longer than for the other two. This can be unpleasant if you’re unfamiliar with the psychedelic state or if you get into a challenging trip. However, this also means that you should be able to retain more insights from LSD.

LSA is much gentler for your psyche than either LSD or shrooms while mushrooms seem to be the most beneficial in the long term. This is why LSD is not the best option to start with.

Keep in mind that the difference is not that big and what is way more important is your dose and that you take the substance in a safe environment.

Immature people who are not willing to follow the safety guidelines
People who suffer from psychosis
People who have a familial history of schizophrenia
Those who suffer from HPPD
People who are going through a manic phase of bipolar disorder
If you’re going through extremely challenging times, you can take psychedelics but the trips might be unpleasant, beware of that

Lysergic acid amide.

100 morning glory seeds usually cost $1-$2. Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds are even cheaper, you can generally find 5 seeds for under $1.

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